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跟贾陆英老师学《论语》为政篇第1章 2013年12月13日

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     今日下午3:30贾陆英老师《论语》问答录在老秘网QQ群“重温经典读书会”准时开讲。本期学习讨论《论语》为政篇第1章,网友们的参与热情高涨。老猫出差刚回,现整理如下:

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公文写作百法例讲
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贾老师,不愧是儒学精英。
 
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夕惕若 发表于 2013-12-16 16:25:30 | 显示全部楼层
 
听君一席话,胜读十年书啊
 
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看君一篇文,胜读十年书!
 
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看了老师们的点评和解说,胜读十年书!
 
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感谢,为什么有乱码啊?
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